Re: The Who Mailing List Digest V8 #274

["Frank Garcia" <fgarcia@kc.rr.com>]

Hello to all those on the Who Mailing list. I am fairly new to this. I would
like to know if anyone
can tell me how to send a gift to Pete. My band recently released their
debut CD and I would like
to send a copy to Pete as a gift. He is my biggest influence and two of the
songs that I wrote
have his influences in my music. If anyone would like to check out my band's
website it is
at www.kcbluesky.com. I want to stress that I am not trying to sell
merchandise via this forum.
I am a dedicated WHO and Pete fan. I have been following the WHO since the
early 60's. In my
opinion there is no better. If Brian Cady is listening I would like to
correspond with him as well.
My e-mail address is fgarcia@kc.rr.com. The website has some MP3s out there
should anyone
be interested. The songs that I am talking about are The Road Song and Lies
& Games. I welcome
all constructive criticisms. Thank You so much for the priviledge of
becoming part of this. I look
forward to meeting other WHO fans like myself and wish everyone safe travels
and harmony in their lives.

Sincerely yours,

Frank
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>
> The Who Mailing List Digest
>   Monday, October 8 2001  Volume 08 : Number 274
>
>
>
> In this issue:
>
> Re: RAH DVD
> Final report on LALD sound quality
> Re: NYC benefit
> Re: Final report on LALD sound quality
> Re: NYC benefit
> Re: NYC benefit
> ACID thrash
> Who Reference
> inks
> Acid Thrash and LAL bitching
> Re: RAH Baba O'riley
> Latest issue of Rolling Stone <off topic>
> Re: RAH Baba O'riley
> Pete & Mick @ Concert for NYC
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 20:29:33 +0100
> From: "Roger Clark" <rog@ask.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: RAH DVD
>
> Keets:
> >Human interest?  A couple of folks have said it's a great video but
> >it
> wasn't the best of shows--meaning there was some awkwardness in
> >it.  I
> >remember comments at the time, too, about the comedian that was
> >booed at
> >half-time and unresponsive audience and etc.  It looks to me like
> >there may
> >have been problems with the venue and camera
>
> My own thoughts on the RAH show at the time was that the audience was
> not wholly a typical Who audience (as you would expect for the nature
> of the show and perhaps the venue). I was standing on the floor to
> the right of the stage and an awful lot of people unfortunately
> remained sitting for large parts of the show even near the front. In
> a way it was not as a responsive audience as you would normally get
> but I must say that this doesn't seem to come over on the DVD and to
> my mind has been brillantly edited and produced.
>
> There was an intermission and the show restarted with Drowned from
> the best of my recollection and looking at the DVD. This again didn't
> detract from a great show on the night, and whilst it didn't have the
> power and danger of say, Manchester, I don't think many punters came
> away unhappy. My memory of the event is only enhanced by the DVD.
>
> Roger.
>
>
>
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 16:19:21 -0400
> From: "Mark R. Leaman" <mleaman@sccoast.net>
> Subject: Final report on LALD sound quality
>
> > Hmmm.....wonder why the horrible sound quality people talk about on
> > other lists isn't being heard by the general public.  Hmmm.....that's
> inter-
> > esting.
>
> Scott:
>
> I guess it tells you what kind of stereo they're listening with, and how
> little they care about sound quality. As for me, I got a CD player because
> it was reportedly the best possible sound quality. So my desire is
obvious.
>
> Speaking of which, since my computer has been so tied up with making CDs
for
> trades, I hauled out my DBX unit and played LALDE: Tommy on it. Expanding
> the sound doesn't help. The hollowness is still there. So I guess this is
> just what we're going to have to settle for.
>
> And it's ABOUT TIME some bombs started falling! However, if Taliban claims
> that bin Laden wasn't in the bag beforehand are true, then Bush screwed up
> as I expected he would...and not for the last time.
>
>
> "God may have mercy on you, but we won't."
>         Senator John McCain
>
>
>                Cheers                 ML
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 22:38:36 +0200
> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Ciggaar <ciggaar@warande.net>
> Subject: Re: NYC benefit
>
> At 20:27 6-10-01 -0400, Jeff wrote:
> >My inside sources tell me that The Who will perform very early in the
show.
> >It is not a bad slot, Sprinsteen opened the "Heroes" telethon and was
> >arguably THE star.
> >
> >BTW, my inside sources are inside my head :-)
>
> "Is it in my head? Is it in my heee-eeeaaa-aaad??"
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bjxrn Ciggaar
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 20:13:39 -0400
> From: "Scott Schrade" <schrade@akrobiz.com>
> Subject: Re: Final report on LALD sound quality
>
> > > Hmmm.....wonder why the horrible sound quality people talk about on
> > > other lists isn't being heard by the general public.  Hmmm.....that's
> > > interesting.
>
> > I guess it tells you what kind of stereo they're listening with,
>
> D'oh!  See, Mark - all your problems would be solved if you bought a
> *mid-priced* stereo system & got rid of that fancy-shmancy one you have!
>
> > and how little they care about sound quality.
>
> Boo!  Boo!  Sweeping generalization!  Sweeping generalization!  Boo!
>
> > As for me, I got a CD player because
> > it was reportedly the best possible sound quality.
>
> Are you saying you.....got fooled again?
>
> > So my desire is obvious.
>
> Jail time for Jon Astley?  A fine for Pete?
>
> > Speaking of which, since my computer has been so tied up with making CDs
for
> > trades, I hauled out my DBX unit
>
> Which stands for:  Don't Buy! X-spensive!
>
> > and played LALDE: Tommy on it. Expanding
> > the sound doesn't help.
>
> What about some superior smoke?  Have you tried that?  Still nothing?
>
> > The hollowness is still there. So I guess this is
> > just what we're going to have to settle for.
>
> And most of the public is settling for it just fine.
>
> > And it's ABOUT TIME some bombs started falling! However, if Taliban
claims
> > that bin Laden wasn't in the bag beforehand are true, then Bush screwed
up
> > as I expected he would...and not for the last time.
>
> What do you mean "wasn't in the bag?"  You're Myrtle Beach slang is lost
on me.
>
>
> - - SCHRADE in Akron
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 22:01:54 -0500
> From: Alan McKendree <amck@thenetdr.com>
> Subject: Re: NYC benefit
>
> >Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 00:51:09 +0000
> >From: "L. Bird" <pkeets@hotmail.com>
> >
> >Like I said, the riff-raff played first.  Liz Taylor made the mistake of
> >trying to talk part way through and was booed--I suspect she was supposed
to
> >give the opening speech and turned up late.
>
> Heh.  Reminds me of when David Spade and the Internet download chick
(Cindy
> Margolis?) came out to talk to the crowd, plug something or other
(Pixelon?
> Girl Scout cookies? who knew?) and "get them revved up" before the Las
> Vegas '99 show.  Poor bastards nearly got booed off the stage.  A shame, I
> like Spade, but he should have had the sense not to accept that gig.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Alan
> "The commitment of our fathers is the calling of our times."
>  -- George W Bush, 9/14/01
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 03:16:18 +0000
> From: "L. Bird" <pkeets@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: NYC benefit
>
> >Heh.  Reminds me of when David Spade and the Internet download chick
(Cindy
> >Margolis?) came out to talk to the crowd, plug something or other
(Pixelon?
> >Girl Scout cookies? who knew?) and "get them revved up" before the Las
> >Vegas '99 show.  Poor bastards nearly got booed off the stage.  A shame,
I
> >like Spade, but he should have had the sense not to accept that gig.
>
> The man can read an audience, though.  He got quickly out of the way and
let
> the show go on.
>
> :)
> keets
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 20:18:38 -0700 (PDT)
> From: thewho rocks <leb905@yahoo.com>
> Subject: ACID thrash
>
> The acid files are up!  Thanks, Pete.  :)
>
> http://www.petetownshend.com/pr_display.cfm?id=258&zone=diary
>
>
> LB
>
> =====
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good with ketchup.
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 22:07:31 -0700 (PDT)
> From: thewho rocks <leb905@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Who Reference
>
> Another interesting Who reference:
>
> http://www.pinkun.co.uk/Content/ncfc/Columns/dolly/asp/010901dolly.asp
>
>
> LB
>
> =====
> Don't meddle in the affairs of dragons, because you are crunchy and taste
good with ketchup.
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 10:54:53 +0000
> From: "L. Bird" <pkeets@hotmail.com>
> Subject: inks
>
> Interesting Who reference:
>
> http://www.pinkun.co.uk/Content/ncfc/Columns/dolly/asp/010901dolly.asp
>
>
> Roger portrait:
>
> http://www.galaxymall.com/art/chickenboy/gallery.html
>
>
> Brief Roger interview on THE BILL TV show a while back:
>
> http://www.sunhill.co.uk/articles/gmtv02.asp
>
>
> keets
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 07:54:52 -0400
> From: "Jeff House" <whocasa@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Acid Thrash and LAL bitching
>
> Pete's loops sound like more raw material for Who songs.  Before Dave and
> Bruce jump on me - I did not say they are songs.  They are riffs.  I
> understand the gulf between the word song and riff.
>
> This continued bitching about Astley/Pete/LAL DE is an interesting case of
> obsessive behavior.  It seems to me that Luke P is so enamored with his
own
> 'remastering' that he feels that his opinion of any Who remasterings or
> re-releases is relevant.
>
> This is a bit like a man who becomes so enthralled with a woman that he
> attempts to control her dress and actions.  If she does not adhere to his
> wishes of perfection, he heaps criticism on her.
>
> It seems to me that those who continue to trash the Who camp for lessening
> the legacy of The Who's majesty should listen to some other music, or take
a
> break from listening to music altogether.  When a dope fiend starts
cursing
> the dealer/producer for his lousy buzz, it is time to put the syringe or
> pipe down.
>
> Jeff
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 14:33:46
> From: "gern blanston" <gernblanston67@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: RAH Baba O'riley
>
> I don't know what all the controversy is about this version of Baba
O'Riley.
> I think it's one of the best ever on a legitimate release. perhaps, even
the
> best (Keith's drumming wasn't in top form on TKAA). It was one of the
songs
> that really swept everyone up at my house. The kind of performmance you
look
> around at everyone else afterwards and say, "F*@K!!!"
>
> - -gern
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 13:07:58 -0400
> From: "Jeff House" <whocasa@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Latest issue of Rolling Stone <off topic>
>
> Yeah, I know.  "Rolling Stone sucks".  "Rolling Stone trashed The Who and
> liked Britney."  Whatever.
>
> The latest issue is all about September 11.  Some wonderful writing.  Much
> of it can be found at
> http://www.rollingstone.com/features/featuregen_base.asp?pid=42
>
> Jeff
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 13:10:30 -0400
> From: "Jeff House" <whocasa@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: RAH Baba O'riley
>
> From: "gern blanston" <gernblanston67@hotmail.com>
> "It was one of the songs that really swept everyone up at my house. The
kind
> of performmance you look around at everyone else afterwards and say,
> "F*@K!!!""
>
> Gern,
> Man!  It sounds like you know how to throw a party!
>
> Jeff
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 10:54:17 -0400
> From: "David Fiderer" <dfid44@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Pete & Mick @ Concert for NYC
>
> Don't be surprised to see Pete playing with Mick Jagger at the Concert for
> New York.  He played on three tracks on Jagger's new sold album -- Goddess
> in the Doorway.
>
> David in NYC
>
> >From: TheWho-Digest-Owner@igtc.com (The Who Mailing List Digest)
> >Reply-To: TheWho@igtc.com
> >To: TheWho-Digest@igtc.com
> >Subject: The Who Mailing List Digest V8 #273
> >Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 10:53:00 -0700
> >
> >The Who Mailing List Digest
> >   Sunday, October 7 2001  Volume 08 : Number 273
> >
> >
> >
> >In this issue:
> >
> > NEW: Searchable archives at igtc.com
> > NYC Benefit Concert: Who,When,etc...
> > TM link for MSG
> > videos
> > Fwd: Re: Odds&Sods-Digest - Number 2203
> > Fwd: RE: Lazy Fat People
> > City of Hope charity
> > Re: Odds&Sods-Digest - Number 2203
> > Re: NYC benefit
> > Re: NYC benefit
> > Re: NYC benefit
> > Re: NYC benefit
> > RAH DVD
> > QUAD movie
> > Fwd: VIP Tickets for The Concert For New York
> > Re: NYC benefit
> > Re: NYC benefit
> > RAH
> > Re: RAH
> > Re: The Who Mailing List Digest V8 #272
> > LAL DE
> > Pete's Sunday
> > weekly downloads
> > Re: LAL DE
> > Re: RAH
> >
> >----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 10:48:18 -0700
> >From: "Paul M. Moriarty" <pmm@igtc.com>
> >Subject: NEW: Searchable archives at igtc.com
> >
> >Hi!
> >
> >I'm pleased to announce that the mailing list archives are now fully
> >searchable.  Check it out at http://www.igtc.com/search.html
> >
> >The archives themselves are located at http://www.igtc.com/archives/
> >
> >Enjoy!
> >
> >- - Paul -
> >
> >- --
> >Maintainer, igtc.com mailing lists
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2001 14:29:31
> >From: "Derick Bhupsingh" <circles01@hotmail.com>
> >Subject: NYC Benefit Concert: Who,When,etc...
> >
> >Seeing that people are wondering about what time and when The Who should
> >go on,I'd like to say this: Their normal time is somewhere between 9.00pm
> >and 9.15 pm. And that's whenthey should go on. Never mind before or after
> >whoelse,just go on at your usual time if possibleand show the world how
> >great this band is!  Maybe,finally they may get the recognition
theydeserve
> >and a lot of people may begin to ask themselves just what they have been
> >missing!Long live Rock,The Who and God Bless the USA!Regards,Derick.
> >
>
>- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2001 07:03:06 -0400
> >From: "Jeff House" <whocasa@hotmail.com>
> >Subject: TM link for MSG
> >
>
>https://ticketing.ticketmaster.com/cgi/purchasePage.asp?event_id=1D003343BC
73B889&event_code=ESG1020E
> >
> >I notice they list the start time as 7:30.
> >
> >Jeff
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2001 14:21:28 +0000
> >From: "L. Bird" <pkeets@hotmail.com>
> >Subject: videos
> >
> >I've been watching VH1, and I notice Michael Jackson has put out a new
> >video
> >for his album.  It's actually a 15 minute film, but they've cut it down
for
> >play on the air.  They've avoided close-ups; the guy looks awful--but
it's
> >debuted at number 10.  That's support from VH1, and I wonder why.
Because
> >Jackson is a proven money-maker?  Does he pay off the network?
> >
> >Anyhow, I'd love to see part of RAH play there somewhere.  I'm still
hoping
> >they'll play some of it in support of the NYC gig.
> >
> >
> >keets
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 07:12:45 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: thewho rocks <leb905@yahoo.com>
> >Subject: Fwd: Re: Odds&Sods-Digest - Number 2203
> >
> >Forward from O&S:
> >
> > >
> > > Re:
> > > While My Guitar Gently Weeps (Wish George could make
> > > it there do play lead on this.)
> > >
> > > This show at MSG is going to be a Beatles reunion. I
> > > thought everyone knew that already!! Paul certainly
> > > didnt ask Led Zeppelin to reform without making
> > > arangements to perform with his old bandmates. So both
> > > George and Ringo will be there.
> > > Love Duke
> >
> >
> >=====
> >Don't meddle in the affairs of dragons, because you are crunchy and taste
> >good with ketchup.
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> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 07:14:41 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: thewho rocks <leb905@yahoo.com>
> >Subject: Fwd: RE: Lazy Fat People
> >
> >Forward from O&S:
> >
> > > > > > Over at his site, he's posted his demo for Fang's favorite song
> > >
> > > > > > "Lazy Fat People."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Go to:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.petetownshend.com/pr_display.cfm?id=251&zone=diary
> > > >
> > > > So I did, and guess what? It's gone!
> > >
> > > Pete's moved them over to eelpie. Go to:
> > > http://www.eelpie.com/downloads.cfm
> >
> >
> >=====
> >Don't meddle in the affairs of dragons, because you are crunchy and taste
> >good with ketchup.
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> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 13:45:53 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: thewho rocks <leb905@yahoo.com>
> >Subject: City of Hope charity
> >
> >Roger will also be performing at this benefit in LA.  Looks like they
> >have an auction on Yahoo, including memoribilia from various stars,
> >including a poster from Roger.
> >
>
>http://user.auctions.yahoo.com/show/auctions?userID=cityofhopecharity&u=%3a
cityofhopecharity\
> >
> >LB
> >
> >=====
> >Don't meddle in the affairs of dragons, because you are crunchy and taste
> >good with ketchup.
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> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 17:20:50 EDT
> >From: TJLY99@aol.com
> >Subject: Re: Odds&Sods-Digest - Number 2203
> >
> >ringo made a statement that he couldn't be there cause he was planning
> >something else and offered his deep regrets. "access hollyood" had the
> >story.
> >     dunno about george though, but it might seem impossible since he's
> >been
> >staying home to recoop after his battles with cancer.
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 19:21:42 -0400
> >From: "Scott Schrade" <schrade@akrobiz.com>
> >Subject: Re: NYC benefit
> >
> > > >did you ever think that the cause is more important than what band
goes
> >on
> > > >before and after the who?
> > >
> > > Sure, but people do notice these things
> >
> >Not really on these occasions - too many artists.  Sure, some of the
lesser
> >acts
> >will be put on first & something BIG will be planned for the end but
> >whoever
> >plays *after* The Who won't be thought of as having been *supported* by
The
> >Who.  Did that make sense?
> >
> > > >and hey listen, if they do a good performance and go on before the
> > > >"younger" acts, they may bring a boost in their record sales.
> > >
> > > So everybody thinks they're a younger band?
> >
> >Er....I don't think that's possible anymore.
> >
> >
> >- - SCHRADE
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 00:20:25 +0000
> >From: "L. Bird" <pkeets@hotmail.com>
> >Subject: Re: NYC benefit
> >
> > >Not really on these occasions - too many artists.  Sure, some of the
> >lesser
> > >acts will be put on first & something BIG will be planned for the end
but
> > >whoever plays *after* The Who won't be thought of as having been
> > >*supported* by The Who.  Did that make sense?
> >
> >Okay, sure.  I'll take your word for it that everybody shelves their ego.
> >;)
> >
> >Actually, it's just a topic for discussion, like the lists of songs
> >everybody thinks they should play.  TJ already came up with an
interesting
> >comment, that playing earlier might catch a younger crowd that will lose
> >intrest as older acts come on.
> >
> >Also, if this event is arranged like some others, then riff-raff like The
> >Who might play earlier with the other riff-raff and the uh-hum, more
> >serious
> >and mature artists will play toward the end.
> >
> >Did I mention a Pete solo performance might be in order?  Pete would fit
in
> >well with the more serious crowd.  It would be great to see some of the
> >artists match up for duets or whatever, too.  Wonder if they'd have any
> >rehearsal time for that before the show?  Otherwise, there are likely to
be
> >impromptu match-ups like at the Bridge School benefit where everybody
> >sneaked out on stage to sing backup.
> >
> >
> >  > >and hey listen, if they do a good performance and go on before the
> >"younger" acts, they may bring a boost in their record sales.
> > > >
> > > > So everybody thinks they're a younger band?
> > >
> > >Er....I don't think that's possible anymore.
> >
> >Oh.  You don't think they could lie about their age?  Well, shoot.  I'm
> >disappointed.  You know, I saw them on VH1 and I thought they were a New
> >Wave group.  Didn't they start around 1980?
> >
> >;)
> >keets
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2001 20:27:39 -0400
> >From: "Jeff House" <whocasa@hotmail.com>
> >Subject: Re: NYC benefit
> >
> >My inside sources tell me that The Who will perform very early in the
show.
> >It is not a bad slot, Sprinsteen opened the "Heroes" telethon and was
> >arguably THE star.
> >
> >BTW, my inside sources are inside my head :-)
> >
> >Jeff
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 00:51:09 +0000
> >From: "L. Bird" <pkeets@hotmail.com>
> >Subject: Re: NYC benefit
> >
> >When does it start?  Eight?  Nine?  JAE has gotta be out and set up at
> >BBKing's before ten, right?  Another place The Who might play is at the
end
> >of the first half.
> >
> >The Heroes show was terrific, and I think these huge benefits have come a
> >long way as far as organization goes since the days of Live Aid.  For
> >anybody who hasn't seen the Freddie Mercury Tribute tape, I'd certainly
> >recommend it.  I was fascinated by the way they handled the whole thing.
> >
> >Like I said, the riff-raff played first.  Liz Taylor made the mistake of
> >trying to talk part way through and was booed--I suspect she was supposed
> >to
> >give the opening speech and turned up late.  So the crowd was all crazy
> >from
> >listening to the metal bands, and how are they going to get that under
> >control for the soft rockers.  Answer:  Roger Daltrey.  I'll bet he
> >deafened
> >a whole stadium full of people.
> >
> >;)
> >keets
> >
> >
> >
> > >My inside sources tell me that The Who will perform very early in the
> >show.
> > >It is not a bad slot, Sprinsteen opened the "Heroes" telethon and was
> > >arguably THE star.
> > >
> > >BTW, my inside sources are inside my head :-)
> > >
> > >Jeff
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 18:05:51 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: thewho rocks <leb905@yahoo.com>
> >Subject: RAH DVD
> >
> >Movin' on up...   :)
> >
> >Sales ranks:
> >
> >DVD @ 100 Amazon.com
> >VHS @ 1118 Amazon.com
> >DVD @ 119 Amazon.co.uk
> >VHS @  74 Amazon.co.uk
> >
> >
> >
> > >I was in HMV's store today (Canterbury U.K.) and noticed The Who's
> >Royal Albert Hall DVD was at no.16 in their Top 40.
> >
> >=====
> >Don't meddle in the affairs of dragons, because you are crunchy and taste
> >good with ketchup.
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> >$8.95/month.
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> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 18:15:18 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: thewho rocks <leb905@yahoo.com>
> >Subject: QUAD movie
> >
> >Here's QUAD:
> >
> >DVD 165 @ Amazon.com
> >VHS 3662 @Amazon.com
> >
> >Are the mods more upscale these days?  Lots of fans out there with DVD
> >players.
> >
> >LB
> >
> >=====
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> >good with ketchup.
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> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 19:54:59 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: thewho rocks <leb905@yahoo.com>
> >Subject: Fwd: VIP Tickets for The Concert For New York
> >
> > > >From the Robin Hood Organization at:
> > > http://www.robinhood.org/concert.html
> > >
> > > VIP tickets are available through Robin Hood on
> > > a first-come, first-serve basis at three price levels:
> > >
> > >  Platinum Ticket(s) at $10,000
> > > The best seating plus an exclusive reception in the VIP Lounge with
> > > visits
> > > by the performers
> > > All but $175 per ticket is tax deductible.
> > >
> > >  Gold Ticket(s) at $5,000 each
> > > Prime seating and private cocktail reception
> > > All but $150 per ticket is tax deductible.
> > >
> > >  Silver Ticket(s) at $2,000 each (SOLD OUT)
> > > Great Seats!
> > > All but $100 per ticket is tax deductible.
> > >
> > > All other tickets will go on sale via Ticketmaster on Monday, October
> > > 8th at
> > > 9:00am. Prices range from $250-$500. Please call (212) 307-7171 to
> > > purchase
> > > tickets.
> > >
> > > To reserve VIP tickets please complete the attached form and return
> > > to
> > > Debbie Fife at Event Associates (email:
> > > debbief@eventassociatesinc.com or
> > > fax: (212) 581-8717). No phone orders for VIP tickets will be
> > > accepted. All
> > > orders will be confirmed by phone or email as received. Payment by
> > > check or
> > > credit card must be received by October 12th. All tax receipts will
> > > be
> > > generated following the concert.
> > >
> > > Tickets can either be sent via Fed Ex or delivered by messenger.
> > > Please
> > > include an additional $15 in your ticket order for this purpose.
> > >
> > > Proceeds from the concert will go directly to the Robin Hood Relief
> > > Fund to
> > > meet the immediate and long-term needs of victims of the September
> > > 11th
> > > attack. In particular, Robin Hood will help lower-income New Yorkers
> > > affected by the tragedy, while through its support of the Twin Towers
> > > Fund,
> > > it will aid the families of police, fire, and rescue workers who
> > > courageously gave their lives to help others. Additionally, 5,000
> > > firefighters, police, and rescue workers will be guests at the
> > > concert.
> > >
> > > Maximum of 10 tickets per order, please.
> > >
> > > Now is the time to come to New York! If you're out-of-town and want
> > > to
> > > attend this historic concert, you can stay at New York's landmark
> > > Plaza
> > > Hotel for a special concert rate of $199 per night on either October
> > > 19th or
> > > October 20th. Mention this special offer when making your reservation
> > > and
> > > show your tickets at check-in.
> >
> >
> >=====
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> >good with ketchup.
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> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 23:11:20 -0400
> >From: "Scott Schrade" <schrade@akrobiz.com>
> >Subject: Re: NYC benefit
> >
> > > Okay, sure.  I'll take your word for it that everybody shelves their
> >ego.
> >
> >They'd better considering what this concert is about.
> >
> > > Actually, it's just a topic for discussion, like the lists of songs
> > > everybody thinks they should play.  TJ already came up with an
> >interesting
> > > comment, that playing earlier might catch a younger crowd that will
lose
> > > intrest as older acts come on.
> >
> >Either way it'll be a pretty large viewing audience.
> >
> > > Also, if this event is arranged like some others, then riff-raff like
> >The
> > > Who might play earlier with the other riff-raff and the uh-hum, more
> >serious
> > > and mature artists will play toward the end.
> >
> >I think The Who will have a featured position in the line up, probably
> >towards
> >the end.  You're making it sound like they're B-list players here.
> >Remember:
> >this is a live show & who puts on a better live show than The Who?  I
> >suspect
> >others artists are frightened to death to follow The Who.
> >
> > > Did I mention a Pete solo performance might be in order?
> >
> >Solo performance?  How long do you think this show's gonna last?  Maybe
> >Pete will do a duet with someone else but I doubt he'll do a solo
> >performance,
> >unless it's a song within The Who's set.
> >
> > > > > So everybody thinks they're a younger band?
> > > >
> > > >Er....I don't think that's possible anymore.
> > >
> > > Oh.  You don't think they could lie about their age?
> >
> >Maybe if the cameras showed only Zak they might get away with it!
> >
> >
> >- - SCHRADE in Akron
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 03:26:23 +0000
> >From: "L. Bird" <pkeets@hotmail.com>
> >Subject: Re: NYC benefit
> >
> > >I think The Who will have a featured position in the line up, probably
> > >towards the end.  You're making it sound like they're B-list players
> >here.
> > >Remember: this is a live show & who puts on a better live show than The
> > >Who?  I suspect others artists are frightened to death to follow The
Who.
> >
> >That's what I mean.  :)  The Who are competitive stacked against anybody
> >there, and whoever follows them had better be good.  That means they're
not
> >scared of playing with the hot young groups the way some of the older
stars
> >might be.  I'm sure they'll play where it's convenient so they can get
John
> >out to BBKing's.
> >
> >The riff raff thing is about how The Who still seems to be viewed by some
> >Pete solo fans.  Like you can't play rock and roll and still be a serious
> >musician and composer.  ;)
> >
> >BTW, has anybody heard what younger groups might make it?  Mostly all we
> >see
> >in the ads are the classic rockers.
> >
> >
> > > > Oh.  You don't think they could lie about their age?
> > >
> > >Maybe if the cameras showed only Zak they might get away with it!
> >
> >Don't you think they could knock ten years off?  Well, maybe twenty in
> >Roger's case.  :)
> >
> >
> >keets
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 23:39:04 -0400
> >From: "Scott Schrade" <schrade@akrobiz.com>
> >Subject: RAH
> >
> >Well I got my VHS copy of the RAH show & like everyone says,
> >it's pretty good.  Nice picture & sound (maybe a little too much
> >Rabbit in the mix - and OX is never loud enough for my tastes).
> >
> >Most of the songs are performed well.  "Magic Bus" & Roger's
> >harmonica playing are outstanding.  So is the violin solo in "Baba
> >O'Riley."
> >
> >There are some awkward moments (aren't there always at a Who
> >show?).  "Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere" is kinda fucked up.  And
> >there's some goofy, between-song moments that I'm surprised weren't
> >edited out (Daltrey having trouble adjusting his mic stand & Daltrey
> >announcing Paul Weller before the wrong song).
> >
> >The guests:  "Let's See Action" with Eddie Vedder is just plain bad.
> >He does a fine job on "I'm One," though.  Fuck Bryan Adams.  Kelly
> >Jones (no, not *Kenny* Jones - har) kinda sucked - although his vo-
> >cal phrasing on "Substitute" was interesting.
> >
> >Paul Weller's vocals were sorta shaky on "So Sad About Us" but
> >I'll give him (and Pete) credit for doing the song in the first place.
> >What else did Paul Weller do?  Can't remember.
> >
> >Noel Gallagher plays some loud, if simple, guitar on WGFA & doesn't
> >get in the way at all.
> >
> >Roger's voice is a bit off every now & then, & the zip-zoom camera
> >edits are sometimes frustrating.  The obtrusive camera placed on OX's
> >bass for "5:15" is borderline comical but that's quickly forgotten once
> >his mastery is on display.
> >
> >Even despite my criticisms this video was fun to watch & is a nice re-
> >minder of how wonderful the 2000 tour was.
> >
> >Final Grade:  B
> >
> >
> >- - SCHRADE in Akron
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 04:51:46 +0000
> >From: "L. Bird" <pkeets@hotmail.com>
> >Subject: Re: RAH
> >
> > >Most of the songs are performed well.  "Magic Bus" & Roger's
> > >harmonica playing are outstanding.  So is the violin solo in "Baba
> > >O'Riley."
> >
> >Different opinions on Kennedy.  It's kind of a different interpretation.
I
> >liked the first and last part, but not the middle.  Looks like Roger was
> >gritting his teeth.  :)
> >
> >
> > >There are some awkward moments (aren't there always at a Who
> > >show?).  "Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere" is kinda fucked up.  And
> > >there's some goofy, between-song moments that I'm surprised weren't
> > >edited out (Daltrey having trouble adjusting his mic stand & Daltrey
> > >announcing Paul Weller before the wrong song).
> >
> >Human interest?  A couple of folks have said it's a great video but it
> >wasn't the best of shows--meaning there was some awkwardness in it.  I
> >remember comments at the time, too, about the comedian that was booed at
> >half-time and unresponsive audience and etc.  It looks to me like there
may
> >have been problems with the venue and camera angles.  Everybody is
staring
> >into lights that leave them completely blind, and they pretty much keep
> >their eyes closed.  I don't much like the dead on shots, either.
> >
> >Some of the camera angles were outrageously good, though.  They've really
> >set up to catch John's work on this one.  Great shots of Zak, and Rabbit
at
> >work, also, when he's generally ignored.
> >
> >
> > >Paul Weller's vocals were sorta shaky on "So Sad About Us" but
> > >I'll give him (and Pete) credit for doing the song in the first place.
> >What
> > >else did Paul Weller do?  Can't remember.
> >
> >Rehearsal.
> >
> >
> > >Noel Gallagher plays some loud, if simple, guitar on WGFA & doesn't
> > >get in the way at all.
> >
> >He looks like he's really trying hard on it.  Mostly it's just a slightly
> >more layered sound, but then he does that oscillation thing and suddenly
> >it's a solo.  Very nice.
> >
> >
> > >Roger's voice is a bit off every now & then, & the zip-zoom camera
> > >edits are sometimes frustrating.  The obtrusive camera placed on OX's
> > >bass for "5:15" is borderline comical but that's quickly forgotten once
> >his
> > >mastery is on display.
> >
> >That's the one I think they should play on VH1/MTV.  It's too long, so it
> >would need to be edited some way, but the style is perfect, and I think
it
> >would be competitive.  There are a couple of spots where Roger would pass
> >for twenty.  And that shot down the bass is pretty obviously the guy who
> >wrote Boris the Spider  :)
> >
> >
> >keets
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 08:54:54 -0400
> >From: "andrew wiechman" <Jovar1701v@email.msn.com>
> >Subject: Re: The Who Mailing List Digest V8 #272
> >
> >I don' think the whole digest made it through, the mailing process.
> >- ----- Original Message -----
> >From: The Who Mailing List Digest <TheWho-Digest-Owner@igtc.com>
> >To: <TheWho-Digest@igtc.com>
> >Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2001 12:53 PM
> >Subject: The Who Mailing List Digest V8 #272
> >
> >
> > >
> > > The Who Mailing List Digest
> > >  Saturday, October 6 2001 Volume 08 : Number 272
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In this issue:
> > >
> > > "tommy"
> > > It's Paul's show
> > > Re: Eugene
> > > Re: maybe off topic - BB King after party on VH1
> > > Re: "tommy"
> > > Re: It's Paul's show
> > > drag
> > > NYC benefit
> > > Pete fiddling with his website
> > > Re: drag
> > > Re: drag
> > > Re: NYC benefit
> > > Re: drag
> > > Re: NYC benefit
> > > Fwd: MuchMusic to carry Concert In New York
> > > Re: NYC benefit
> > >
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > > End of The Who Mailing List Digest V8 #272
> > > ******************************************
> > >
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> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 07:42:07 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: thewho rocks <leb905@yahoo.com>
> >Subject: LAL DE
> >
> >Customer reviews of LAL DE are coming in at Amazon.com and
> >Amazon.co.uk.  Looks like most fans haven't noticed any serious
> >problems, and the reviews are very positive.
> >
>
>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/music/B00005NB0H/custo
mer-reviews/ref=bxgy_cc_text_a/103-1417352-6103811
> >
> >The UK page has sound clips, as well as the reviews, including one of
> >stage banter.
> >
>
>http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005NB0H/o/qid=/sr=8-1/ref=sr_ap
s_pm_1_1/026-4790688-0201267
> >
> >
> >
> >LB
> >
> >=====
> >Don't meddle in the affairs of dragons, because you are crunchy and taste
> >good with ketchup.
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> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 09:48:38 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: thewho rocks <leb905@yahoo.com>
> >Subject: Pete's Sunday
> >
> >Having a hard days, it seems.
> >
> >http://www.petetownshend.com/pr_display.cfm?id=258&zone=diary
> >
> >
> >LB
> >
> >=====
> >Don't meddle in the affairs of dragons, because you are crunchy and taste
> >good with ketchup.
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> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 09:55:38 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: thewho rocks <leb905@yahoo.com>
> >Subject: weekly downloads
> >
> >Pete has announced that the weekly downloads should take place at
> >Eelpie.com.  Sure enough, these look to be .ram files rather than mp3s
> >as in the past.  Hmmm.  I wonder if that's to foil folks who have been
> >burning these to cd and selling them?
> >
> >http://www.petetownshend.com/pr_display.cfm?id=257&zone=pr
> >
> >
> >LB
> >
> >=====
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> >good with ketchup.
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> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 13:12:03 -0400
> >From: "Scott Schrade" <schrade@akrobiz.com>
> >Subject: Re: LAL DE
> >
> > > Customer reviews of LAL DE are coming in at Amazon.com and
> > > Amazon.co.uk.  Looks like most fans haven't noticed any serious
> > > problems, and the reviews are very positive.
> >
> >
> >Hmmm.....wonder why the horrible sound quality people talk about on
> >other lists isn't being heard by the general public.  Hmmm.....that's
> >inter-
> >esting.
> >
> >- - SCHRADE in Akron
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 13:40:59 -0400
> >From: "Scott Schrade" <schrade@akrobiz.com>
> >Subject: Re: RAH
> >
> > > Different opinions on Kennedy.  It's kind of a different
interpretation.
> >  I
> > > liked the first and last part, but not the middle.  Looks like Roger
was
> > > gritting his teeth.  :)
> >
> >No way!  That was a jaw-dropping violin solo.  I kept waiting for him to
> >fuck up but he never did.  A highlight of the show.
> >
> > > A couple of folks have said it's a great video but it
> > > wasn't the best of shows--meaning there was some awkwardness in it.
> >
> >Was there an intermission at this show?  I noticed Zak & Pete's outfits
> >change part-way through the tape.
> >
> > > Some of the camera angles were outrageously good, though.  They've
> >really
> > > set up to catch John's work on this one.  Great shots of Zak, and
Rabbit
> >at
> > > work, also, when he's generally ignored.
> >
> >Yeah, there were some nice closeups of Rabbit's fingerwork (!).  Some of
> >the closeups of OX's fingerwork were disappointing because, as in other
> >rock videos, the camera man focuses only on his right hand plucking the
> >strings & not his left hand fretting the notes.  The best OX shots (!)
are
> >the
> >ones from the waist up, showing both hands at work.
> >
> > > >Noel Gallagher plays some loud, if simple, guitar on WGFA & doesn't
> > > >get in the way at all.
> > >
> > > He looks like he's really trying hard on it.  Mostly it's just a
> >slightly
> > > more layered sound, but then he does that oscillation thing and
suddenly
> > > it's a solo.  Very nice.
> >
> >Yeah, he stayed away from playing the exact note patterns that Pete would
> >play & smartly created some fresh-sounding "mini-solos" as it were.
> >
> >RE: "5:15"
> > > That's the one I think they should play on VH1/MTV.  It's too long, so
> >it
> > > would need to be edited some way, but the style is perfect, and I
think
> >it
> > > would be competitive.
> >
> >"5:15" would be a good one or an edited "Magic Bus" which really got the
> >crowd (& the band) going.  Wouldn't VH1 have to get The Who's permis-
> >sion to use a clip from the show?
> >
> >
> >- - SCHRADE in Akron
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
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